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Interview with Archbishop Dr. Edward F. Barrow

Dr. Edward F. Barrow

 

An Individual can be a Distinguished Socialite Today

And Tomorrow Share the Unfortunate Experiences

of the Being the Least Among Us’

Dr. Edward F. Barrow is the Archbishop of the Spiritual Baptist Archdiocese of New York, Inc.  He was born in St. Vincent and the Grenadines.  Dr. Barrow holds a Doctorate in Sacred Theology and is a lecturer in Theology, and Dean of Academic Affairs at the Christian Gospel Mission Bible Institute of Trinity International Biblical University located at 591 E. 40th Street, Brooklyn, New York.

Explaining the origin of the Spiritual Baptist Archdiocese of New York, Inc., which was formed in 1995, Arch- bishop Barrow said, “The Spiritual Baptist Faith in North America is very young in relation to the Faith in the Caribbean. In fact, it was Spiritual Baptist immigrants from Trinidad and Tobago and other Eastern Caribbean countries who sometime in the late 1960s and early seventies brought the Faith to the United States.”

He continued, “With the development of a number of Spiritual Baptist congregations, it became obvious that being in a fragmented state would not serve the best interest of the general membership.  It was therefore decided that consistent with our interdependency as small congregations, it was necessary to form an umbrella organization which could be used as a conduit in the application of servicing the temporal and spiritual needs of the membership.”

Dr. Barrow further explained, “If a member church is not properly structured or registered with the State, the Archdiocese, as an umbrella organization, can provide strategic assistance. It is also felt that members of the Faith would feel much more contented as part of one large family.”

How far do the tentacles of the Archdiocese reach?

The Archbishop noted “There are approximately 24 member churches in the Spiritual Baptist Archdiocese of New York, Inc. However, not all the spiritual Baptist churches in the New York area are members of the archdiocese. We also have affiliated member churches and organizations outside the United States in countries such as Canada, Ghana, Grenada, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, and Trinidad and Tobago. We also have a very good working relationship with the Spiritual Baptist Archdiocese in Barbados.

Despite the fact that he is widely respected among the faithful of his religion in the United States and the Caribbean, Dr. Barrow who joined the faith in 1964 said that his entering the Spiritual Baptist realms was not by his will but by that of the Almighty God.

He explained, “I grew up with the desire and intention of being an Anglican priest and kept myself for that purpose. It was something I strongly believed that I wanted to do.  I was an acolyte, a boys’ choir member and a member of the church’s youth organizations. “

Dr. Barrow went on to say that at the age of 19 he joined the nation’s Police Force. His plan was to remain  in that job until age 29  when he believe that he would have developed the maturity and qualifications for admittance into the priesthood .with the intent of serving until I was 29 years ld.”

However his plan was soon short-lived. He explained “At age 21 I got sick. I sought medical help but despite several tests the doctors could not find any cause for my illness. I contacted my brother who lived in England for the purpose of seeking medical assistance in that country but my health became so severe that I contemplated suicide as the alternative. Fortunately, after three unsuccessful attempts I was confronted by the reality of God’s plan for my life.”

He explained, “ On the third suicidal attempt my plot was foiled because the person who I depended on to get the poison from had an immediate member of his family who died suddenly. As a result he was forced to ignore my request.”

Dr. Barrow added, “I believe that it was at this stage that I  came to the realization of the great wrong I was about to commit. I knelt down in the road near the in the person’s house and cried, begging God for his forgiveness. After that prayer it seemed to me that a sort of clearance had taken place.”

He noted, “Sometime later I met a nurse who I was acquainted with and she speculated that my illness might not be a medical one but that it might be a spiritual one.”

Dr. Barrow continued, “The nurse recommended that I should see my priest or pastor. I followed her advice and discussed my plight with my priest who agreed with the nurse’s speculation. He explained that my illness was because when I became a policeman I withdrew myself from the sacraments of the church. He also revealed that I needed to return to that spiritual life I once had within the church. As a result shortly thereafter I resigned from the police force.”

Sometime after, I went to Trinidad to visit another of my brothers. The first Sunday I spent there I was invited to a church service by my brother’s neighbor. I accepted the invitation. This church was St. John’s Spiritual Baptist Church, in Gasparillo, run by the late Leader William Andrews and Mother Elsie Bartholomew.”

He added, “I was not aware at that time that the church was a Spiritual Baptist church because I had never associated myself with their counterparts the ‘Converteds’ back home in St. Vincent.  I knew of their existence but nothing of their operation.”

However the young man was soon to receive a new Christian experience. He explained, “During Mother Elsie (who later became my spiritual mother) knelt down in prayer. It was the first time I heard someone talking to God as if he was a friend and was present while they were talking to him. I felt as though everything she was saying was exactly what I would have liked to say to him and that she was saying it for me.”

Dr. Barrow said that although he felt uncomfortable state, he immediately fell to his knees and began to pray. He continued, “When she got up off her knees I remained on my knees. I did not know how to talk to God as she did but I was able to pray the ‘Our Father’ prayer and the ‘I Believe’. My prayers to God were sincere and the leader of the church recognized my ignorance to the truths of God, later in his sermon, challenged me on a new birth and of being born again.”

            Dr. Barrow continued, “That week I attended the church’s nightly services. One night I arrived late and an elder leader was on his knees praying. His back was towards the door and as a result was unable to see when I entered. During his prayer he told the congregation about my presence.”

He explained, “The elder said that he received a revelation that a stranger had just come into the church and as of that moment he is not to be called by his former name but he is to be called ‘Moses’. Everyone there acknowledged that I was acknowledged that I was that individual and from that day I was called ‘Moses’.

Two weeks after that experience, Whit Sunday 1964, I received baptism. Since then in Gasparillo and many parts of Trinidad I was known as ‘Brother Moses’, to some and ‘Leader Moses’ or ‘Shepherd Moses’ to others.

How did the acolyte turned Spiritual Baptist cope in his newly adopted religion? Archbishop Barrow replied, “During those days many people viewed the faith  as suitable only for the people of the lower level of society, namely those who were limited in education and opportunities. At first, I had to get used to the denigrated impact of non- social interaction as a result of my visible membership within the Faith.  However, I soon convinced myself that had it not been for the grace of God I would not have been here so I would let the Lord have his way within my life and he surely did.”

He continued, “I never severed my relationship with the people I knew in my past in those days in the Anglican Communion.  I have remained friends with many Anglican priests and still keep a close relationship with the church. My view is that God called me to an evangelizing ministry.”

Was it difficult for him to make the transition?

Dr. Barrow answered, “Yes, it was very difficult. I was embarrassed at times. Some  friends and acquaintances thought I was crazy or had psychological problems and originally did not take me seriously. Others later confessed that they were aware that I had no ministerial or theological training, yet when I preached and the word of the Lord flowed so eloquently that they said to themselves that I was ‘stone mad’ or that there was some truth to the faith.”

But what was the view of his religious community with him leaving the teaching of the Anglican Church to adopt that of another faith?

Dr. Barrow went on to reveal that he has been faced with bitter and sweet moments from acquaintances from his past, he explained,One individual, a man of higher education who is presently a distinguished Methodist Minister, and was from my hometown in St. Vincent and the Grenadines met me in Trinidad at Library Corner, San Fernando, during the time when I was in full time evangelizing ministry. It was a period when I was unable to work. The man asked me if I was Edward from Calliaqua, St. Vincent, I answered “yes” but he didn’t believe it was me. He then mentioned my mother’s name and asked if I was her son, I again answered “yes” and he said that he was not convinced it was me, so he then mentioned my sister’s name to make very certain it was the same person he was talking to; when he realized I was the same person, he asked the punch line ‘And how you come so?’ From a societal perspective, it was a period in my life and ministry when I was brought to the most humble state of human dignity. A period I would like to forget but is constantly keeping me faithful. A period when I lived by the mercies of god and the goodwill of my brother to whom I am eternally grateful.”

            He continued, “When I later returned to my homeland on ‘mission’ at times I would be mocked by some amongst the crowds which followed me. One time after preaching assignment in Georgetown (the capital)  there was a large crowd which had gathered to hear ‘the message’, this caused  the police to redirect traffic. As a result, the then Assistant Commissioner of Police who knew me told me that if I was not a Vincentian he would have deported me and that  I was a disgrace to the police force for being in such a religion.”

 “However, originating out of that period there are the sweet moments,” Dr. Barrow explained, “Here in New York, I have met some people who are now Ministers of the gospel who knew me during my early preaching days and have spoken of the impact my ministry has had on their lives and that it may have influenced their call to ministry.  I have also met in the pulpit ministry a particular well-respected Spiritual Baptist pastor, who as a young man, before his conversion, used to mock me as I preached. Today, he has accepted the faith and has become one of the strongest apologists for it. Many times we both would share a joke or two about those earlier periods of my life.”

He continued, “My experience has been a very humbling one. Pride and self-centeredness were killed and this has helped me to see others on an equal basis. It has also helped me recognize that today an individual can be a distinguished socialite and tomorrow can share the unfortunate experiences of being the least among us in society. The benefit I have gained is to see each person in the light of good rather than as society would have it namely of class and separation.”

Given his earlier foundation what virtue has he found in the Spiritual Baptist religion that he believes he can use as an example to show individuals from other Christian religions that his is as serious and as theirs or any other Christian religion?

 Dr. Barrow explained,The church as the body of Christ is one and though there might be different branches, there is only one Shepherd.  Society has created the environment for different religious sects within the same body, which is a shame.  In fact, there are people who would not respond to the Gospel message call within a particular religious or denominational setting because they believe that they would feel unwelcome.  The scripture speaks of other sheep that are not of the same flock, they also must hear the Gospel and they too must have a Shepherd.

At one time, the people who were attracted to our faith were people who were at the bottom of the social ladder, those who were marginalized and considered societal outcast, but the ministry of Christ is also for them.  God calls Shepherds whom they would listen to and would send these Shepherds to them.

No faith holds the key to the Kingdom of God neither is there any other doctrine but scriptural doctrine.  As such, no Faith is higher than the other in the delivery of the Good News; it is erroneous interpretation of the Scripture and the societal class structure of separation which tries to create this atmosphere.

            Are there any practices within the Spiritual Baptist faith that he believes isn’t scriptural and should be done away with?

Dr. Barrow replied, “Yes. We must learn to separate the cultural aspect of our faith from the spiritual aspect.  I am against the integration of the spiritual aspect and the cultural aspect. Individuals tend to be more receptive towards the cultural aspects while losing focus on the spiritual aspects because they incorrectly believe that they are one and the same.”

He added, “In my own experience the faith is pure. It is simplistic in its revelation of the truths of God and does not require other entities in its application.”

He continued, “We serve an all powerful God and he absolutely does not need any assistance in his doing.  He can do all things, at all times, in all places, all by himself. There is no invocation of entities necessary to reach him but our simple honest prayer. The cultural aspect is very important to our history.  It constantly reminds us of ourselves not being a people of subjugation but a people esteemed.  However, in our Christian worship, it belongs in a separate household.”

The Archbishop stressed, “Our conversion to Christianity came as a result of hearing the words of God which came out of the King James version of the Holy Bible, so, if this book was strong enough to convict us and to cause our conversion , why is it not good enough to sustain our spiritual life without help from another source.”

 

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